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I started typing this up a couple of weeks ago. I could probably ramble on and on with regards to this because, well, I can.  At first, this was just some sort of brainstorming on what I think *I* would ask if I were interviewing a new teacher.  Then part of it became, I dunno, a little therapeutic for me.  Perhaps a reminder of why I do what I do.

Anyway, this is merely keeping me from grading. But to get it posted will mean one more think I can check off my to-do list.  And now on to my grading.  So, here are my questions, some answers, some musings, some ravings, and perhaps some incomplete thoughts.  Make of it what you will.


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What I’m looking for in a teacher. The teacher interview. 

What is your philosophy of teaching? 

Boy, I used to hate this question. I thought it was all about methodology, I guess. I’m not even sure what I put. I remember I had to write a paragraph in the target language for one application, which I thought at the time was pretty amusing because WHO IN THE WORLD was going to read it?

My philosophy now seems to circle around these things:

·         teaching reading skills and not decoding skills; developing those skills from day one

o   What do you know about reading methodologies?

o   Have you read Dexter Hoyos’s Latin: How to Read it Fluently?

o   How have you applied reading methodologies to improve your own reading skills?

o   Have you ever tried to explain these skills to a colleague or student?

·         finding a way to reach all students; teaching in a supportive way that allows ample opportunities for all students who at least try to succeed at least to a certain degree.

o   Have you ever tutored students?

o   Have you ever worked with students or even peers who clearly learn things differently from the way you learned things?

o   Have you ever thought about how you would explain how you learn things—what tricks you use for memorizing endings, etc.?

o   Where do you picture yourself teaching? What sort of students?

·         emphasizing the importance of good pronunciation, use of oral Latin, reading out loud, etc.

o   How often do you read out loud?

o   How careful are you with your pronunciation?

o   If the text has macrons, can you read with correct accentuation without much of an effort?

o   When you write Latin, do you write with macrons (without looking)?

o   Are you comfortable asking and answering simple questions in Latin (quis, quem, cui, ubi, quō, quid facit, etc.)?

o   Have you ever attended a Rusticātiō or Conventiculum?

·         gaining insight into second language acquisition

o   Have you ever read any material about second language acquisition?

o   Have you ever attended any conferences that addressed issues related to second language acquisition?

 

I suppose my philosophy also encompasses these other considerations. I decided that on these, it might be worth my answering too.

·         Things about being a teacher.

o   Why did you want to become a teacher?

§ Teachers were and still are an important part of my life. I was not well liked in middle school and high school and I don’t think I could have survived if I didn’t feel like their rooms were safe places to be in.

o   What teachers inspired you?

§ I was inspired by many good teachers, but primarily my Latin teachers, Doris Kays and Bob Hicks, and my biology teacher, Roger Robison. But I suppose I also think about my wonderfully patient and talented ballet instructor, Amory Oliver, as well as several of my professors, Gareth Morgan and Bill Nethercut among them. Come to think of it, I regularly employ the sudden loud outburst to wake up students like Gwyn Morgan would use in my Roman history classes.

§ Perhaps the truth is that I’ve taken a little bit away from every teacher that touched me, even fictional ones. Mr Keating (Robin William’s character in “Dead Poets Society”) greatly influenced me, perhaps more than any other if that is possible. I have been known to stand on chairs and desks, ding a bell and say “thanks for playing” and go overboard dramatically with anything I’m reading. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I know that this  character, fictional though it may be, has influence me.  Keating had that amazing ability to engage students. The teacher/administrator that followed him taught English as a cold subject that could be dissected with formulas. (The Pritchard Scale for judging a sonnet.)  I don’t want my classes to ever be dominated by Latin grammar or the need to scan lines of poetry with absolute perfection. Does it matter what type of dative something is? After all we can dissect the Latin to death, but only if we read it in context, in word order, out loud like a Roman, staying in Latin and trying to THINK like a Roman. Who cares if we can write good English translations! It isn’t an English class.

§ So, like Keating, I refuse to let literature—that passionate stuff written to move our hearts and souls—be reduced to carefully parsed passages.

o   When did you know you wanted to be a teacher?

§ I know I wanted to be a teacher the moment I stepped onto a college campus. However, I first wanted to be a theatre major. I knew I was not the stuff that Broadway actors were made of but I loved acting classes. Now I worry about how I could ever memorize enough lines (ha, and yet I have an iPod’s memory of songs in my brain). I didn’t get on with the chair of the theatre department and I was totally inspired by my first Latin professor, Bill Nethercut, as well as my first semester in Latin, so I switched to Latin as my main teaching field with English as my second.

o   What do you think you have to offer students?

§ First, my empathy. I remember what it was like to not fit in, what it was like to be bright but clearly not the smartest or the best read of my peers. Second, my total enthusiasm and zany if not outlandish approach to teaching.  I dance and prance around the room, I stand on desks, I will act out readings, I will do whatever it takes to hold their attention. I would rather a class that’s a bit rowdy but engaged over one that is quietly compliant but hardly engaged.

o   Why did you choose Latin?

§ I’ve thought about this question for many years, and finally decided I must have been influence by BBC’s “I, Claudius.” I watched “I, Claudius” with students after school last year and found it every bit as enjoyable as it was in the late 1970s. That’s why I took Latin to begin with. I stayed with Latin because of my high school Latin teacher, Doris Kays, and her colleague at another high school, Bob Hicks, and my first professor in college, Bill Nethercut.

·         Things about being a Latinist.

o   What authors have you read outside of coursework?

§ I am partial to Martial. Admittedly I like to thumb through a Loeb, glancing more at the English until a particular topic catches my eye, and then I read the Latin (occasionally disagreeing with the translator!) I don’t teach Catullus, but have been known to read him from time to time. I like to practice my reading fluency with Eutropius. And I’ll look at any book that comes along from publishers. I just don’t have enough time to indulge my interests.

o   Do you ever write in Latin?

§ I enjoy writing simple stories in Latin for my students. I have also been known to rewrite Martial epigrams to suit my own topic plus the occasional haiku. I email in Latin sometimes as well as post in Latin on Facebook.

o   Do you ever play games in Latin?

§ I play cards in Latin; have played Twister in Latin and try to do other things.

·         Things about being in the classics profession.

o   Have you ever attended an American Classical League Institute?

§ Many times; I’ve presented at many.

o   Have you ever attended a Classical Association of the Middle West and South annual meeting?

§ Many times; I’ve presented at many.

o   Have you ever attended a Texas Classical Association conference?

§ Many times; I’ve presented at many.

o   Have you ever attended a Junior Classical League convention as a student? As an adult/teacher?

§ Several as a student; only local ones as a teacher. My family life keeps me from spending even more hours with my students. One day I hope to.

o   Have you ever served on committees in any organization?

§ National Committee for Latin and Greek; CAMWS Committee for the Promotion of Latin; various ad hoc committees for TCA

o   Have you ever written articles or presented papers?

§ Numerous; many are online via my curriculum vitae. I’m currently planning one regarding growing a program/developing Latin students in Latin 1 who will be well prepared for AP Latin, no matter what their abilities are to start with.

Saw the doc today; he's seriously concerned about my sleep deprivation.  No joke; me too.  He kept asking how I could lighten my load.  He kept saying he knew other teachers that didn't work as hard, surely.

Yeah... well....

Would my tests be easier to grade if I made them all scantron? Sure.   Done in 5 minutes in the workroom with the scantron machine.  But is that truly best practices?  

How come living well means not teaching well if you have a full load?

Sure.  I could switch.  Might take some time to change over the tests but I could switch.  But....

How would all multiple choice prepare students for AP?
How would all multiple choice encourage students to reread their stories?
How would I really see true mastery of the material?

Because I can tell you what, just because a person can decline a noun doesn't mean he can read a sentence of Latin.  Just because a person can recognize the right answer doesn't mean he could have come up with that answer on his own.

Backwards design, right?  They say that's the best way to design what you are doing--thinking about where you want to be and design backwards.  OK, my end result is supposed to be, what, a 5 on the AP exam.  So what skills do you need?
  • an ability to translate accurately and literally a seen passage of Latin 
  • an ability to read and reread a large quantity of Latin, and then reread it again--because the exams requires that you have a serious grasp of all the literature read
  • an ability to comprehend an unfamiliar passage of Latin that is not related to Vergil
  • an expanded vocabulary keyed towards Vergil
  • a solid grammar base that would allow you to differentiate, for instance, tenses and cases quickly and easily
  • an ability to write essays (but frankly I let the English department develop those skills; I just fine-tune them for the needs of the exam)
I look at that list and can think of MORE things I need to be doing and not less.  MORE.  For instance, at the beginning of the year I really tried hard to make students use a reading log.  But I never had time to grade them or enter the grades.  I was too busy grading quizzes, tests, or making quizzes and tests for other classes, or quia.com material.  However, if I did have more time and did use those reading logs, for those that don't fake the log (yeah, yeah), it would be really beneficial.  Students won't do something unless they have to even if they know it would be good for them.  So the reading log, I feel, is necessary.  PLUS it would develop the HABIT of REREADING previous stories.

How wonderful it would be if all AP Vergil students, instead of freaking out at the number of lines in the current assignment and diving in, actually took the time to reread the previous selection before starting the current one?  It would certainly develop the bigger picture--plus Vergil seems to repeat specialized vocabulary relatively near each other.    But this habit is almost too late to form if you wait until the students are seniors.  Better to start it sooner.  

The other thing that I do to encourage rereading of stories is including seen passages on the tests.  I (foolishly?) provide a choice of 4 passages, so if they reread at least one or two stories they should be able to find something they are comfortable doing.  I always hope that the knowledge of those selections being on the test encourages students to continue to reread the stories, even if only the night before the test.

And it's this presentation of seen passages that helps me to see whether they can translate or not.  If they mess it up in class when it was homework, fine.  That's ok by me -- if they learn from it.  On the last test I gave to the Latin 3 class I included a passage we had a "pop" quiz on (that I didn't count--it was that bad!) that was over an extended indirect statement.  Two students chose that passage to demonstrate that if nothing else they HAD paid attention. Fine.  Great even.  They gave me the details they hadn't given me before, the kind of details and literal precision that AP is after.  

SO THAT'S ALL GOOD.  But if I could find a way to keep up with the reading log, that would be better.

The ability to read a sight passage and answer questions... well, I guess I could turn that into multiple choice/objective.  Currently I have short answer -- both Latin and English -- to make sure students truly are understanding the Latin and not just guessing randomly.  From the style of question I can see whether they get concepts of case or even subject/verb agreement, not to mention general comprehension.  On my last Latin one class I could easily tell who had general comprehension because they laughed at the story.  (I had written a great one, I admit.  Luck, most assuredly!)   Admittedly the sight passage will be multiple choice on the AP test, but I feel that I can determine a lot about how a student is doing by the kinds of answers the student writes down.  Did they get the write word for a Latin answer but just not put it in the right case?  Did they not understand the question altogether, or did they understand the question but not the passage?  All sorts of things. 

But I guess if something had to go, I could rewrite the tests to have multiple choice for those sections... that would save some time in grading.

As for developing an expanded vocabulary geared towards Vergil, well, there's still LOTS of room to go here.  I'm only beginning to ponder the situation.  The more Vergil I read with the AP girls this year, the more I realize that CLC really has LOTS of Vergil vocab built in.  Some scene we were reading in Latin 1--LATIN 1--had some words that were just in the Vergil we're read recently, words that the girls stumbled on.  

I'm starting in Latin 3 (but have been inconsistent--and this will all need redoing on quizzes next year) to have a section on the vocab quizzes for old vocab they should still know.  It's strictly a matching section, and I really only began this when we began Unit 4.  Perhaps a little late to be doing this.  Even the Latin 2's have noticed that they aren't retaining vocab.  So this is something that perhaps I need to start including on their vocab quizzes.  The question in my mind's eye is usually WHICH WORDS?

I have toyed with words that show up in the current story.  But would it be more efficient (surely it would?) to just simply state that there will be matching vocab that will pull from X stage and Y stage?  Yes, most likely.   I do have a master vocab list for Unit 1 and Unit 2, though I haven't handed them out in recent years.  But perhaps these would be good lists to give to Latin 2 and 3 students at the beginning of the year?  And I wish I had a list for Unit 3, one done like *I* would do it--with macrons and all.  (Hmmm.... I suppose this could always be a standby project for my aide when I don't have her typing up Vergil vocab....).   Ideally what I would do is mark all the vocabulary that is on the Vergil high frequency list and target those words, whether they showed up in the current reading or not.  And if I pulled on two stages, I could do one from a more recent stage for reinforcement and one from an old stage for review.  Yes?  Not a bad idea.

(Of course, I'm always full of good ideas that I can hardly find time to put into practice.  And this note was about how to cut back on what I do so I can get more sleep and find time for exercise before I literally kill myself from stress.)

(And now I'm thinking I have the topic for a paper for presentation next year regarding vocabulary acquisition, which is always a hot topic for conversations among Latin teachers.)

Grammar.  That's where I'm falling down, I think.  I don't do enough hardcore drill and kill.  I focus a lot on being able to see the phrasing and that seeing the phrasing is far more important than knowing all the words.  Clearly students don't believe me.   One girl, bless her because she tries hard but gets easily discouraged, had written vocab all over a sheet of the Latin story (printed out for marking phrasing with notes for vocab on the side), demonstrating that she had looked up ever single damn word.  She did.  She had worked HARD.  She was virtually in tears when she (as well as most everyone else) had bombed the little pop quiz that focused on the indirect statement because she couldn't make heads or tails of it.  She sees the trees but not the forest. Lots and lots of tall, scary trees.  And I do have a grammar section (multiple choice) on my standard tests at all levels; I have noticed that this is the section where people are dropping the ball, especially on things they really shouldn't be blowing.  I no longer drill the neverending noun song with the Latin 3's.  If they don't know their noun endings then they know what to do.  They have the link to the song, there are drills, etc.  They can practice on their own. 

I have conjugating and declining drills online.  I don't require declining and conjugating for homework because, honestly, WHEN would I have time to grade them?  But this is a problem I think I have to figure out.  I think that Latin 3--that stepping stone to AP Latin--must be where we refine all knowledge of declining and conjugating and such.  I tried to teach the Latin 3's (only 7 of them) how to do a synposis earlier this year but finally gave up because only 2 seemed to get it and in a split level class I started to think that it wasn't the best use of my time. But that was a cop-out.

I'm thinking that next year--and I have to find a way (find some more time?  ahahahahhaha) to grade these THE WHOLE YEAR--all vocab items must be declined, conjugated, or put in a synopsis (where applicable).  Little details keep slipping by the AP girls--and that's my fault for not having reinforced the detail work in the past.  But they've been in split-level Latin for 3 of four years.  All three with me, at least.  

So, not a place to cut, but one to expand.  One to find MORE time for.  

I know one thing that eats up a bunch of my time is the creation of the quia.com materials.  But I think they are critical for mastery in some cases, can act as a private tutor for students, is a resource that's available 24/7/365, and once made is still there.

I confess that there are times... times when I worry about ALL THE TIME I've invested in quia.com and what will eventually happen to it if something happens to it.  I've come to rely on it entirely too much in my teaching and my review of material for students.  It's probably why I have as many students move from level 1 to level 2 Latin.  We'll see how many Latin 2 go to Latin 3 next year.  And God Almighty what will I do next year?

They'll have to have a cut off.  3 Latin 1s, 2 Latin 2s, 1 Latin 3 split with AP again.  I doubt that they will be getting another Latin teacher, or if they do, will it be one I can convince to do things my way?   What levels to give?  Lower levels while I develop upper?  Give up upper and relax, so to speak, with lower?

And what about my doc?  HOW can I do less than I do now?  What's the result?  Will students learn the Latin if I didn't do what I do?  Wouldn't more fail?  Wouldn't my classes be smaller? 

I don't know how to not do what I do.  I can only think of more to do.  More that needs tweaking.  Today is an inservice day and I had no  one to meet with for vertical teaming this morning.  This, I suppose, is my vertical teaming.  With personal commentary.  Probably TMI. 

If I gave up anything it would be doing JCL.

In a heartbeat.





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